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Re: KCLUG Digest, Vol 83, Issue 1
by Richard Allen 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

I say android is the most common linux(not just server or desktop), but that's a pretty wild guess. On Jun 3, 2011 11:32 AM, <kclug-request(a)kclug.org> wrote: > Send KCLUG mailing list submissions to > kclug(a)kclug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kclug-request(a)kclug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kclug-owner(a)kclug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KCLUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: most commonly used Linux version? (Jim Herrmann) > 2. RE: most commonly used Linux version? (Haworth, Michael A.) > 3. Re: most commonly used Linux version? (Andrew Scott Beals) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:02:00 -0500 > From: Jim Herrmann <kclug(a)itdepends.com> > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Subject: Re: most commonly used Linux version? > Message-ID: <BANLkTimdm_0p52V+PBzSOmkN9j2xJUvgXA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Joe, > Since you were asking about desktop Linux, and the system administrators on > the list veered off into server land, let me bring this conversation back to > your original question. You said you wanted to install a desktop and wanted > the most commonly used Linux version. If you look at the vendors that are > selling retail desktops, to consumers, they are using Ubuntu. If you are > looking for the more common business desktop, then use Windows, because > businesses don't install Linux on their desktops, well damn few anyway. > Only smaller, smarter companies, do that. The big boys are all stuck with > Windows XP because it's too damn hard to change out 10,000 desktops of > people who need a three day class just to learn how to run M$-Word. I'm > sure that some companies, more in Europe no doubt, are switching to Red Hat > and SuSE desktops, but if you want the most commonly used *consumer* > desktop, download Ubuntu here: http://www.ubuntu.com/ > > I hope that actually answers your question and tip toes around the holy war > that still rages within the Linux community. ;-) > > HTH, > Jim > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Joe Cho <ksjoecho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to install a Linux to my desktop. >> Could you advise a most commonly used Linux version? >> for example: Redhat, Debian, etc. >> >> and where can I download? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> -Joe >> >> -- >> Joe Cho >> ksjoecho(a)gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> KCLUG mailing list >> KCLUG(a)kclug.org >> http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >> >

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by Jack 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

I occasionally run into sites that haven't got a clue they are running on the Internet and want to do bizarre things with my printer interface. Some sites check your browser user agent string, but then use multiple addresses that possibly also check the string. Have you tried changing your user agent string both per site and globally? It may be that the sites require a windows-only DDE/ActiveX/WhateverOtherNewNamemMSGivesIt program to print. Like Coupons.com apparently does. If changing your global browser string doesn't help and private browsing doesn't work, you only real option is to complain. Bizarre that coupon sites which are geared for savvy shoppers would be so clueless to the savviest coupon in all of the PC world. The Linux coupon. Jack --- On Fri, 6/3/11, Hal Duston <hald(a)kc.rr.com> wrote: > From: Hal Duston <hald(a)kc.rr.com> > Subject: Coupons > To: "KCLUG" <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 11:52 AM > All, > > Has anybody had success "couponing" on Linux? Many of > the coupon sites > won't print under Linux, and indeed seem to go to quite a > bit of trouble > to make sure the browser is running in Windows. > > One site refused to print even when I viewed it with > Internet Explorer 7 > under Wine. (Installed via ies4linux). It was > still able to determine > that I was attempting to print from something other than > Windows. > > Thanks, > -- > Hal Duston > Kansas City, MO > hald(a)kc.rr.com > 816-916-7219 > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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Patch Panels
by Jonathan Hutchins 04 Jun '11

04 Jun '11

Also available: 1U power strip, switch on front, 6 outlets on the back. 6' cord. Don't think it has any surge protection.

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Patch Panels
by Jonathan Hutchins 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Anybody have a use for some 48 port rack-mount patch panels? I have four, and several cable management units (mount on rack, route cables to patch panel).

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Coupons
by Hal Duston 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

All, Has anybody had success "couponing" on Linux? Many of the coupon sites won't print under Linux, and indeed seem to go to quite a bit of trouble to make sure the browser is running in Windows. One site refused to print even when I viewed it with Internet Explorer 7 under Wine. (Installed via ies4linux). It was still able to determine that I was attempting to print from something other than Windows. Thanks, -- Hal Duston Kansas City, MO hald(a)kc.rr.com 816-916-7219

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Remote control in Boxee
by Brian Kelsay 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Any one use a Harmony 700 and like it?

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most commonly used Linux version?
by Joe Cho 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Hi, I would like to install a Linux to my desktop. Could you advise a most commonly used Linux version? for example: Redhat, Debian, etc. and where can I download? Thanks in advance. -Joe -- Joe Cho ksjoecho(a)gmail.com

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Re: most commonly used Linux version?
by thomas＠redhat.com 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Again, these stats are suspect simply because they are from a relatively niche sample. No argument Ubuntu does great in non-paid space, but that ain't a sustainable business model. And in enterprise compute, I simply never hear of Ubuntu. So if I were to do a quick survey of that niche space it'd look awful for Canonical. There are three kinds of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics. "jldugger(a)gmail.com" <jldugger(a)gmail.com> wrote: Meanwhile, on Linode[1]... 48% Ubuntu 24% Debian 16% CentOS 4.3% Fedora 3.1% Gentoo Now granted, #1 in nonpaying customers is kind of a tough spot to be in. And the RHEL pricing model doesn't lend itself to The Cloud. I imagine Canonical has a paid agreement to cater their OS to EC2, but we can't read their 10-K's so we'll never know. Justin [1] http://www.linode.com/about/ On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:35 PM, thomas(a)redhat.com <thomas(a)redhat.com> wrote: > The reason I said "depending on which report you read" is that "market share leadership" is such a nebulous term, it depends on how it's defined. Some reports I've seen say we have 85% of paid Linux revenue. Some reports say 55% of paid Linux server count. Still others say we're on 70% of all factory prepossessing of Linux. > > Frankly, I find all of these suspect for a slew of reasons from statistical accuracy to methodology to just plain common sense. > > Probably the closest thing to truth I can find - and even this is probably not the best yardstick - is revenue. Don't take my word for it, our 10K is public, as is Novell 's. > > Also Gartner and IDC have some decent data on things like server sales and OS sales. Go look at those. > > But the assertion that only managers and marketing types like RHEL, and real men like Debian is just absurd. What runs the NYSE? What does the FAA use to support the ~8000 planes in the air in US airspace every day? Hint: it ain't Debian. > > TC > > Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins(a)tarcanfel.org> wrote: > > On Monday 23 May 2011 04:17:54 pm thomas(a)redhat.com wrote: > >> We own between 65 and 85 percent of the Linux server market, depending >> on which report you read. Debian based distros are not really even a >> blip on the radar from a commercial standpoint. > > Based on number of licenses sold, or total revenue? > > IBM has a big share of the POS market, and their POS system is based on SuSE. > They don't count the licenses on a per-terminal basis as far as I know, so > their "market share" would be skewed too. ?I know of only one very small > specialty POS system based on RHEL. > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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Re: most commonly used Linux version?
by thomas＠redhat.com 24 May '11

24 May '11

The reason I said "depending on which report you read" is that "market share leadership" is such a nebulous term, it depends on how it's defined. Some reports I've seen say we have 85% of paid Linux revenue. Some reports say 55% of paid Linux server count. Still others say we're on 70% of all factory prepossessing of Linux. Frankly, I find all of these suspect for a slew of reasons from statistical accuracy to methodology to just plain common sense. Probably the closest thing to truth I can find - and even this is probably not the best yardstick - is revenue. Don't take my word for it, our 10K is public, as is Novell 's. Also Gartner and IDC have some decent data on things like server sales and OS sales. Go look at those. But the assertion that only managers and marketing types like RHEL, and real men like Debian is just absurd. What runs the NYSE? What does the FAA use to support the ~8000 planes in the air in US airspace every day? Hint: it ain't Debian. TC Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins(a)tarcanfel.org> wrote: On Monday 23 May 2011 04:17:54 pm thomas(a)redhat.com wrote: > We own between 65 and 85 percent of the Linux server market, depending > on which report you read. Debian based distros are not really even a > blip on the radar from a commercial standpoint. Based on number of licenses sold, or total revenue? IBM has a big share of the POS market, and their POS system is based on SuSE. They don't count the licenses on a per-terminal basis as far as I know, so their "market share" would be skewed too. I know of only one very small specialty POS system based on RHEL. _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list KCLUG(a)kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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Puppy Linux as a Primary OS for daily use. It's been working for me
by Oren Beck 23 May '11

23 May '11

I've been very happy to discover that Puppy 5 has been a quite stable overall "Just works" daily use distro. Less so from trying HD installs on some hardware, but running from CD/DVD or Flashdrives seems to be a winner. Which seems nicely in keeping with my preferred mode of having the OS and Userdata on separate devices. Oh- there's a zone of having "some" archival stuff on the slack space of an OS device, but NEVER as the "only copy" of anything worth worrying about losing. That concept is incredibly NEAT to use easily due to how Puppy's Pmount utility displays drives on the desktop with a prominent green DOT to indicate a drive's mounted. Yeah- that's a small trivial seeming thing but it's an example of how Puppy's methods work for me. I keep a shoebox of older ~20- 250 gig drives around as archived buckets of "if I missed something" history and using the IDE>USB cable trick allows me to painlessly take a drive from the box-copy whatever is needed for a mule 'puter around here onto the drive and NOT worry about leaving space for an OS etc. Boring stuff like pictures of Catfish contests etc get set up as a slide show on a guest computer running Puppy from CD or an internal Flashdrive. For me personally, booting Puppy from a Flashdrive makes whatever 'puter I am sitting at closer to "Mine" than many other tricks I've used with "less" chance of leaving traces of even trivial data on whatever HD's are in the machine I'm using. Last I checked- writing to an UNMOUNTED drive's not a worry eh? More details going up on my blog..

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