From: James Michael Chacon (probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu)
Date: 01/21/93


From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Subject: Re: Safety Belt / SLS
Date: 21 Jan 1993 00:25:17 -0600

kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery) writes:

>probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
>> Thats why unix is not for the faint hearted. There are plenty of warnings
>> in the various README's and FAQ's about this sort of thing. For one, I
>> would always back up completely before mkfs'ing a new drive or repartitioning

>Forget the hacker-only attitude. SLS is an attempt to make Linux easy for
>DOS users to install and use, which is an attitude I find preferable.

>> These are just little things people have got to think about before installing
>> something new. Granted the average DOS application doesn't go low level and
>> mess with the hard drive itself, but then again this isn't an average thing.
>> You are getting into the real world with unix, so you have to live with some
>> real world things like unix is semi-cryptic.

>DOS won't let you trash your Linux partitions with an ill-advised format.
>Why should Linux?

>> James (Who accidently mkfs'ed the wrong partition to once, but thats what
>> backups are for)

>I hate to tell you, but traditional unix mkfs tells you what partition it
>wants to scribble on and warns you to hit DEL (^C with default Linux stty
>settings, of course) within 10 seconds if that's not what you want --- so
>even real world unix is better than the current Linux mkfs. (I grant that
>BSD might have dropped it from their mkfs. My comment about the hacker-only
>attitude applies to that.)

>++Brandon

>--
>He's BAAAACK! Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org
>Help stamp out OSF/Motif in our lifetime!

You still obviously didn't get my point here. MAKE BACKUPS FIRST. Come on,
so even if other mkfs's allow me 10 seconds that still isn't going to make
any difference if I don't realize it. Whats next, mirroring of the old
partition first??

I try not to adopt this is for hackers only, but realize you are installing
something thats a little more powerful than DOS here. If people don't
want to make backups, and then get burned by it later thats their problem
not mine.

James