I'm thinking to not hand this out at ITEC. Cost issues aside on blank DVDs, apparently the folks making KNOPPIX went hog-wild with all the space they have on a DVD, resulting in menus so big it takes forever to find an application to run. Add in a major bug in the 4.0 release and a few other problems, and it may not be something we want to be someone's first introduction to Linux.
Flavio's Technotalk review of KNOPPIX 4.0: http://tinyurl.com/as7q3
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So, are they still using a compressed filesystem? That's one of my pet peeves about LiveCDs on older machines. Having to read, decompress, then run an app takes way too long on a slower system with little RAM. Swapping to disk (if setup) makes it a tad easier to run stuff, but is slow none-the-less. It's one of my problems with Puppy. Puppy is fast, and totally RAM resident, but they have a 150+ mb distro squeezed into a 64MB RAM space so just launching an app requires the wait for it to copy stuff around in RAM and decompress it. Puppy actually ran faster from the HDD on a old K6 system than as a RAM resident LiveCD, as it was all ready to run as soon as it hit the RAM.
On 8/21/05, Leo Mauler webgiant@yahoo.com wrote:
making KNOPPIX went hog-wild with all the space they have on a DVD, resulting in menus so big it takes
--- Jon Pruente jdpruente@gmail.com wrote:
So, are they still using a compressed filesystem? That's one of my pet peeves about LiveCDs on older machines.
KNOPPIX 4.0 DVD uses a compressed filesystem on the DVD. According to the press materials, the 3GB ISO I downloaded is a compressed filesystem holding 9GB of applications and data.
Now, I must note that neither the German version nor the English version has successfully gotten past the initial boot screen on my HP Pavillion (2.93GHz Celeron, 512MB RAM) so I haven't had the opportunity to see the new KNOPPIX 4.0 for myself.
Having to read, decompress, then run an app takes way too long on a slower system with little RAM. Swapping to disk (if setup) makes it a tad easier to run stuff, but is slow none-the-less.
Yes, I do have a spare 90Mhz Pentium Laptop but with only 16MB RAM it just doesn't have the power to run most LiveCDs (or for that matter the *installer* on the flashier Linux install CDs), so its not really a good demo machine.
On 8/21/05, Leo Mauler webgiant@yahoo.com wrote:
making KNOPPIX went hog-wild with all the space they have on a DVD, resulting in menus so big it takes
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I finally managed to boot the DVD on a 1.3Ghz Duron machine with 512MB RAM. They aren't kidding when they say that this release is overloaded: I counted something like 80 items in the Internet applications menu. Thats just too big.
It also takes ten minutes to boot, unlike the CD version (3.9) which only took a couple minutes from the first KNOPPIX screen to the desktop.
I say hand out KNOPPIX v3.9 LiveCD, not the monster DVD version.
--- Leo Mauler webgiant@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm thinking to not hand this out at ITEC. Cost issues aside on blank DVDs, apparently the folks making KNOPPIX went hog-wild with all the space they have on a DVD, resulting in menus so big it takes forever to find an application to run. Add in a major bug in the 4.0 release and a few other problems, and it may not be something we want to be someone's first introduction to Linux.
Flavio's Technotalk review of KNOPPIX 4.0: http://tinyurl.com/as7q3
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